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pecky1234 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
the only real problem is with people thinking that the shoulders should be square at impact, is the try to make people have square shoulders and they end up swinging way too far inside out
clemshaw (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I am not disagreeing with you Jordan; you can look at it and describe a fact like you or a feel; to me, I am trying to get to the feel of when I whip this way, it goes where I want it to...I would have to do research and a video with the K-vest to get you real numbers and still, what the heck would that accomplish as far as a feel to a target...:) I will give you props about square shoulders to target being a myth though! I wish we could talk more and not have to formulate short versions!
pecky1234 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
the shoulders must be open at impact. fact. if you pause any good player their shoulders are around 35* open at impact. its silly really to think that you can have your shoulders square at impact. look on this video at 2.06 and you can see that your shoulders are pointing to the top left corner of the screen!!
clemshaw (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Wait a second here Jordan; shoulders and chest are different right? Compared to the chest the shoulders have 20 to 30 degrees of mobility so I can still have the chest in front while having the shoulders square (or the perception of). I just want to make sure we are talking about the same thing here. You know by now that manipulating the body into positions during the swing is not my thing but there is no harm is looking at a few positions for comparison and perception adjustments...:)
pecky1234 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
this video totally destroys the idea of having square shoulders at impact. if you stop the video from DTL when you arm gets to where the ball would be, and your chest is almost totally facing the target!!
clemshaw (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Not silly at all! Check the response I gave Golfrules08 just below...It is my favorite feel in the swing! Shawn
clemshaw (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
When swinging the club, be aware of the strongest feel you experience when you are swinging well; mine is a catapult effect of the arms and club being pulled towards the target as my butt is turning out of the way while being bolted through my left side...then when you go to the ball and have your eyes on the back of the ball, look for that feel to the target...always link the feel to your target and forget everything else;if you don't have a specific focus, you will default to the ball...:)
clemshaw (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I think you have the gist of what is and what should be happening in the swing; as long as the arms and club are being tracked by centrifugal force and gravity and not manipulation...Shawn
WaydeJohnson (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Also, do you feel the swing a lot in your butt? I'm trying to squat a bit more to get what I'm thinking is the catapult feel, it's almost to the point where it feels like the swing is half (or more) powered by my butt...is that even possible?? haha :) ...I hope this question isn't as silly as it sounds!
WaydeJohnson (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
hi Shawn, great video! I think I'm getting a better feel for simply throwing the momentum to the target...with the release, I'm finding it helps to just not do anything, so that the release is more something that happens as opposed to something you do...and the arms merely guide the momentum in the direction you desire. Is that a good thing? |
